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Post Posted February 14th, 2018, 7:44 am

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Would you please keep the conversation/s here on mozillaZine, civil.
No name calling or the like.

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Post Posted February 14th, 2018, 1:58 pm

#Sun-Glasses wrote:However, malliz claiming that Waterfox is reaching its end is wishful thinking, or just uninformed nonsense. Or both.

I said it had an uncertain future nothing more nothing less. You are the one who added all the tinfoil political rhubarb.
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Post Posted February 15th, 2018, 1:30 am

I think it's hard for the forks to keep up with all the changes Firefox is going through currently. But I've only used Firefox, so just an observation.

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Post Posted February 15th, 2018, 3:22 am

malliz wrote:I said it had an uncertain future nothing more nothing less. You are the one who added all the tinfoil political rhubarb.


Uncertain future? Well, life is all about uncertainty. Mozilla could be involved in some random scandal and it would be over in the short term, as well. Or they are going to die a slow death, with their market share bleeding dry. Who knows.

Your claims are totally unbiased, I guess? (Guess not.)

PS: This one speaks volumes about your attitude... viewtopic.php?f=26&t=3038253&p=14791655#p14791655 :D :D :D
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Post Posted February 15th, 2018, 3:24 am

tomatoshadow2 wrote:I think it's hard for the forks to keep up with all the changes Firefox is going through currently. But I've only used Firefox, so just an observation.


Depends on what the goal of the fork is. If it is developing Firefox in another direction (Pale Moon), then sure, trouble ahead. If the goal is to keep Firefox clean (Waterfox), then they can go on without any major interruptions.

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Post Posted February 15th, 2018, 3:40 am

@ #Sun-Glasses No attacking malliz, remember no personal attacks directed toward users, it's the rules just saying. But, Waterfox still seems to be running into trouble and when you have a very small team developing it, it can be hard to keep up. It might get harder for them as Firefox continues on, who knows.

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Post Posted February 15th, 2018, 5:58 am

tomatoshadow2 wrote:@ #Sun-Glasses No attacking malliz, remember no personal attacks directed toward users, it's the rules just saying. But, Waterfox still seems to be running into trouble and when you have a very small team developing it, it can be hard to keep up. It might get harder for them as Firefox continues on, who knows.


The Waterfox developer chose to patch Waterfox 56 while waiting for Firefox 60 ESR, which he is going to use as his next base. He is not in any trouble.

Regarding malliz, I can only say that compared how he treats others even in this very thread...

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=3038253&p=14791655#p14791655

...I treat him very humanely. If they delete any of my rather moderate comments, it will only prove that some are more equal than others around here. Ever wondered why Mozillazine is so scarcely populated?

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Post Posted February 15th, 2018, 10:18 am

But what will happen after that? Could still be a big change, everyone is treated the same at this forum. No one has status over someone else, we all strive to make this a welcoming community. I think Malliz, is pointing out how he feels about 3rd party builds. I know he doesn't like if people twist what he's trying to say, no one does.

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Post Posted February 15th, 2018, 11:10 am

@tomatoshadow2:

I think you're being a tad too forgiving (or perhaps naive) about malliz there. Both he and Frank Lion get a bit more free reign here, and basically get to disparage people much much more than the rest of us. It's left to slide, only because of their long-standing membership here, and that's NOT a good enough reason. No one is treated equally to them. In fact, I find they pretty much call the shots here - just look at who suggests all of the thread locking and off topic split offs. You can't tell me you're blind to that.
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Post Posted February 15th, 2018, 3:36 pm

Just a note sure Frank and I know the mods we have all been here a long time in many cases before they were mods. The mods never let this stop them from pulling us into line when we need it and in most cases we get less slack than most because we "Should know better"
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Post Posted February 15th, 2018, 3:38 pm

malliz wrote:Just a note sure Frank and I know the mods we have all been here a long time in many cases before they were mods. The mods never let this stop them from pulling us into line when we need it and in most cases we get less slack than most because we "Should know better"


Your posting history combined with DanRaisch's moderator status... No comment. Only so much: It basically screams "preferential treatment". No wonder this forum is going downhill.

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Post Posted February 15th, 2018, 3:45 pm

Dan is scrupulously fair and any suggestion otherwise is both insulting and plain wrong.
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Post Posted February 15th, 2018, 3:47 pm

malliz wrote:Dan is scrupulously fair and any suggestion otherwise is both insulting and plain wrong.


Again, look at all those berating posts in your posting history, especially at those still standing. And then look at DanRaisch's status.

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Post Posted February 15th, 2018, 6:08 pm

This is no longer on topic, and rather than cutting the chaff, I'm just going to lock it.

If you want to question the moderation around here, do so in the site discussion forum, don't sidejack another thread.
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