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Post Posted September 26th, 2017, 7:00 am

Whoever is working on whatever project that offers us continued use of Extensions and modifiability has nine to ten months to get a half-way stable product ready.
A month after ESR 52 reaches end of life, if a third party project offers better security patches than existing ESR 52 and if it keeps Extensions working, then that's the time and reason why we would consider switching, as long as the product is half-way stable.

If we value Extensions and total modifiability over security, then that's a matter of our personal choice, right or wrong.
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Post Posted September 26th, 2017, 8:23 am

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Post Posted September 26th, 2017, 1:08 pm

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Post Posted September 26th, 2017, 1:30 pm

Frank Lion wrote:
efox99 wrote:
tmcd wrote:I like the old Firefox from before this new "revision" (not sure what to call it) ....

I'm curious, specifically which old Firefox version you want to keep forever? :lol:

As you can see at the bottom of the post, the guy is posting here using Firefox 47. Chances are they meant that.

I'm curious, why specifically did you want to know that?


I just noticed at the end of the post it does show the Firefox version. I been here long enough and never bothered to look at that. :oops:

I was also curious because I can't recall in the past which old version was the faster. I'm currently using the latest 55 and I find it smooth. Wish it was much faster though (only using two extensions). :D

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Post Posted September 27th, 2017, 8:10 am

Where's the OP? :roll:

I refuse to join Reddit, a social networking site in disguise, to keep my eye on what's going on in Waterfox. That's not exactly a support site. Mzine has served me well for many years, the regulars are knowledgeable, and I'll stay with the browsers here.

...and I'll worry about it next summer.
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Post Posted September 27th, 2017, 9:00 am

LoveMyFoxy wrote:...and I'll worry about it next summer.


Exactly. Agreed. Sitting back and watching options sort themselves out, then seeing what they are in June of 2018 is the way to go.
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Post Posted September 27th, 2017, 9:56 am

Changes according to Mozilla Release Calendar seem to show way before June of 2018.

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Post Posted September 27th, 2017, 10:26 am

This table clearly shows Firefox ESR 52.8.0 expiring June 26, 2018:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/o ... tions/faq/

This means that in July of 2018 we make the decision to stay with Firefox ESR 52.8.0 [which is compatible with old Extensions] into July 2018 and beyond, or see what other options are there.
Since things will change so much, and since we don't need more than a month to "adjust" to something else, it's by June 2018 that anyone else working on anything else needs to get it done by.

Of course, weighing to give up modifications for faster new Firefox in July of 2018 will definitely be on the table. But my Firefox profile has always been so perfect, I don't find I need speed or anything else. Just being able to modify everything on my personal profile at the expense of security.
But until July of 2018, there is zero reason to leave Firefox.
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Post Posted September 27th, 2017, 12:28 pm

I'm not seeing "leaving Firefox" as a global consensus, seems premature and ESR is not the primary object.
Besides accommodations have been made with some extensions going for the webext in the stable release.
Prudence should pull the earlier dates and not get caught in a backwater with a less then condition, even if ESR's are still comfortable.

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Post Posted September 27th, 2017, 12:36 pm

I believe the OP has left the building.
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Post Posted September 27th, 2017, 12:38 pm

On that point, I wish somebody would post about a scenario of using a June 2018 version of Firefox and what the dangers are a year later if you use a year-old Firefox but still have quality Antivirus/AntiMalware/(software/hardware)Firewall installed.
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Post Posted September 27th, 2017, 12:39 pm

c627627 wrote:On that point, I wish somebody would post about a scenario of using a June 2018 version of Firefox and what the dangers are a year later if you use a year-old Firefox but still have quality Antivirus/AntiMalware/(software/hardware)Firewall installed.


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Post Posted September 27th, 2017, 1:06 pm

Well can I rephrase the question, a year and seven days ago Firefox 49 was released.

What major security holes have been discovered from Firefox 49 to Firefox 55, that would make quality Antivirus/AntiMalware/(software/hardware)Firewall unable to deal with them on systems using Firefox 49 today?
EDIT: Here's the list https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/ ... s/firefox/
But my question is how any of these today affect a Firefox 49 system that also has other protection?
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Post Posted September 27th, 2017, 1:18 pm

Grumpus wrote:Changes according to Mozilla Release Calendar seem to show way before June of 2018.


There has always been a two version overlap of ESR releases before the users are updated to the next ESR.

That calendar shows 52.7 and 59.0 being released in March, 52.8 and 59.1 being released in May and all users of 52.8 and 59.1 will be updated to 59.2.0 in June.

Show unless the user wants to download 59.0 in advance, they are good until June.
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Post Posted September 27th, 2017, 2:11 pm

Besides firewall and A-V, I also run MalwareBytes Anti-Exploit and BD Anti-Ransomware resident. I used those 4 on Win XP for 3 years after updates ended, and kept it safe.
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