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DN123ABC
 
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Post Posted January 16th, 2017, 10:36 am

What, and where, are the latest decent stable "Seamonkey" "Nightly Builds"?

Right now, I'm using:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46
Build identifier: 20161213183751

Just wondering if there is anything newer which might use a bit less memory.

Thanks.

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Post Posted January 16th, 2017, 1:19 pm

DN123ABC wrote:What, and where, are the latest decent stable "Seamonkey" "Nightly Builds"?

There is no such thing. Nightly builds are pre-release, bleeding-edge code. They only exist for testing/bug-hunting purposes.

Nightly builds cannot be expected to be decent or stable.

DN123ABC wrote:Just wondering if there is anything newer which might use a bit less memory.

How much memory is it using? How many webpages do you have open at the time?
*Always* check the changelogs BEFORE updating that important software!

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Post Posted January 17th, 2017, 7:18 am

Unstable and experimental Nightly builds are at Directory Listing: /pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/.

Note that the last Windows build is from 14-Jan-2017.
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Post Posted January 17th, 2017, 10:44 am

Don't touch 2.50a1 yet unless you are willing to help out documenting and reporting bugs.

If you want a test drive pick the latest 2.49a2 which as of now is:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonk ... mm-aurora/

Has a known drag and drop bug but otherwise the SeaMonkey side should be quite stable. The mozilla backend still changes almost daily and mail might have some problmes of its own so if you run into an odd bug or two don't be alarmed. For daily browsing it should be fine.

It has been decided to do a 2.49ESR so this release will be with us for a long time and depending how the Firefox self destruction saga with xul and classic extensions removal continues might be even supported longer than one ESR cycle.

In my opinion it uses less memory and is faster than 2.46 but don't expect wonders. Less and faster are relative terms...

Relevant bugs in it are tracked in:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1313304

If you try it back up your profile. The internal databases will be upgraded to a new version.

FRG

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Post Posted January 25th, 2017, 12:17 pm

I just updated from Seamonkey 2.40 to 2.46, using the Help menu updater.

Is 2.49 fairly good? I used to be more up to date, but got burned too much, so wait it out a bit more.

Thanks.

frg
 
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Post Posted January 26th, 2017, 11:30 am

2.49 is now beta. There is still a drag and drop bug in it but you will likely never notice this one unless you regularly drop urls onto the browser window. Mail and news might have some regressions due to internal changes in Thunderbird which need to be evaluated and eventually be backported to SeaMonkey but for everyday use its ok. If you are a power user for mail/news stay away for now. I use it daily for occasional mails with imap and newsgroups and its ok for me. If you try it backup you profile or you will not be able to go back easily.

Personally i think it will become a good release. Subjective speed increase and seems to use about 30 to 50 MB memory less out of the box. YMMV

FRG

DN123ABC
 
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Post Posted January 26th, 2017, 12:37 pm

Faster and less memory? What's not to like? It seems Firefox is going the other direction.

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Post Posted January 26th, 2017, 12:37 pm

frg wrote:Personally i think it will become a good release. Subjective speed increase and seems to use about 30 to 50 MB memory less out of the box. YMMV


Good timing - just in time for the ESR :)

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Post Posted January 27th, 2017, 10:29 pm

frg wrote:2.49 is now beta.
FRG


well where are the actual 2.49 betas, FRG? I can't find them anywhere.

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Post Posted January 27th, 2017, 11:01 pm

@4td8s He's referring to the source code. I don't think there are any official builds yet.

If you're willing to use untested builds and report bugs, watch this space - https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-beta-win32/
*Always* check the changelogs BEFORE updating that important software!

frg
 
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Post Posted January 28th, 2017, 4:20 am

Official betas are still at least 2 to 3 weeks away. 2.48 will come first.

You can try the latest 2.49a2 aurora which is still very close to the beta:
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/n ... mm-aurora/

Adrian has not yet updated his builds but watch out here too:

https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~aka ... y/nightly/

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Post Posted January 29th, 2017, 9:27 pm

frg wrote:There is still a drag and drop bug in it but you will likely never notice this one unless you regularly drop urls onto the browser window.

I do regularly drop urls onto the browser window. What bug # is this?
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Post Posted January 30th, 2017, 12:16 am

> I do regularly drop urls onto the browser window. What bug # is this?

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1319212

For 2.49+ If you build it yourself try the fix and let me know how it works.

DN123ABC
 
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Post Posted February 17th, 2017, 10:14 am

frg wrote:Official betas are still at least 2 to 3 weeks away. 2.48 will come first.

You can try the latest 2.49a2 aurora which is still very close to the beta:
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/n ... mm-aurora/

Adrian has not yet updated his builds but watch out here too:

https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~aka ... y/nightly/


2 to 3 weeks have passed. Where is this "beta"? Would it be 2.48 beta, 2.49 beta, or something else?

I'm having a hard time finding the windows installer, and there were links above starting with both ftp.xxxxxxxxxxx or archive.xxxxxxxxxx which look similar, but the structure is not intuitive.

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Post Posted February 18th, 2017, 2:10 am

DN123ABC wrote:2 to 3 weeks have passed. Where is this "beta"?

AT LEAST 2 to 3 weeks.

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