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Post Posted May 13th, 2018, 6:45 am

@LIMPET235
I only let CCleaner delete the internet cache, cookies, download history and last download location. IMHO that cannot do any damage. Moreover, I have to delete the cache when e.g. watching YouTube, otherwise the pc slows down because of that.

Since the FF Quantum (I think) I have always had 6 FF processes running. It might very well be that the sixth in the one image was further down for a moment and wasn't captured in the screenshot. And weren't the separate processes meant to make FF lighter? That's what I've been told.

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I don't know what disk usage means, I've been asking the same question here. I just see that in the Task Manager and that is how people describe the 100% disk "problem" online. I don't know what disk I/O is but there still is something wrong between my disk and FF. I figured that the disk column means how much Windows is reading the programs/exe files on the hard disk. Maybe that is the same as your disk I/O, I don't know.

As for CleanMem: okay, this is way over my head, so don't shoot me but this is as far as I understand it. CleanMem does deal with disk space as it makes memory use system cache and not the page file on the hard disk making pcs faster when they struggle with RAM being used up a lot. I do hope I didn't say anything foolish here, lol. I thought about uninstalling it but I didn't see how that would be a cause, but I can try it.
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Post Posted May 13th, 2018, 7:48 am

"Extreme slowness"

You would think that would be accompanied with high CPU usage.
Some sites use "coin miners" that do use up your CPU.
That in & of itself may or may not make things "slow".

This page will do just that.

NSFW. POTENTIALLY "DANGEROUS".
https:// vidoza.net / 5ls3vngbfr1i.html
IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING, DON'T GO THERE.

Actually, on that particular page, there is nothing even to "see" there.
But, it has a miner. It eats CPU.

Otherwise, who knows.
I would not doubt if some FF extensions contain miners, or similar.
Crap websites (tons of tracking links & such) or pages (videos, animated images & such) negatively affect things.

You have 8 GB RAM.
I would not think that to be an issue.
I would think there would be no reason for ClearMem.
I would think it installs a "driver", one that is likely disabled when you reboot your computer in Safe Mode?

Your shots show nothing out of the ordinary with FF.
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Post Posted May 13th, 2018, 8:25 am

therube wrote:Your shots show nothing out of the ordinary with FF.

That is good to know, therube. Thank you for that. The only thing is that these shots are stationary. 100% disk usage is not a problem as long as it goes down again within, say, a minute, I gathered. But on my laptop it doesn't go down and then the extreme slowness occurs, with sometimes FF crashing for not being able to load etc.

Your post reminds me: a few times I saw a yellow banner saying something about a web page slowing FF down. It's only there for a few seconds, so I'm not sure what that was. And is that a symptom of the slowness or a cause, or THE cause? The last time I saw it was on the YouTube page, but pages where it occurred vary (I think). Do we need to look into that?

I still don't have slowness on the laptop. Maybe the Windows Safe Mode did something?? For normally I would have had slowness already again. But the moment slowness occurs I will run FF in Safe Mode and I will uninstall CleanMem. Now it's no use to try things. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post Posted May 20th, 2018, 4:40 am

I now have run FF in Safe Mode but it was the same. Sometimes very fast, sometimes slow, sometimes superslow with Task Manager showing 100% disk usage.

I also ran FF normally but without extensions and the hardware accelaration and with the standard theme (which I think is the same as FF Safe Mode but to be on the safe side). Same.

Can we rule out FF settings as a cause now or do you still want me to try the new profile option? Trying to save myself time and energy. :)
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Post Posted May 20th, 2018, 5:08 am

provide information please (text, not raw)
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/us ... ix-firefox

if a crash is available:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/mo ... shreporter
The Mozilla Crash Reporter dialog box appears when Firefox crashes and lets you send a crash report. Learn how it works and how to access your crash reports.

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Post Posted May 20th, 2018, 5:45 am

I didn't actually see a crash for a while so I was stunned to see many crash reports in about:crashes, for today only already ten! I don't know how to get the latest crash report to you. The copied link didn't work. Can you tell me how? Edit: see next post.

Here's the troubleshooting info page.


Toepassingsbasics
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Naam: Firefox
Versie: 60.0.1
Build-ID: 20180516032328
Updatekanaal: release
Useragent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0
OS: Windows_NT 6.3
Multiprocess-vensters: 1/1 (Standaard ingeschakeld)
Webinhoudsprocessen: 5/4
Stylo: content = true (standaard ingeschakeld), chrome = true (standaard ingeschakeld)
Bedrijfsbeleidsregels: Inactief
Google-sleutel: Gevonden
Mozilla-locatieservicesleutel: Gevonden
Veilige modus: false

Crashrapporten van de afgelopen 3 dagen
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Alle crashrapporten (waaronder 38 crashes in behandeling in het gegeven tijdsbereik)

Firefox-functies
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Naam: Activity Stream
Versie: 2018.04.20.1103-b3b95672
ID: activity-stream@mozilla.org

Naam: Application Update Service Helper
Versie: 2.0
ID: aushelper@mozilla.org

Naam: Firefox Screenshots
Versie: 30.1.0
ID: screenshots@mozilla.org

Naam: Follow-on Search Telemetry
Versie: 0.9.6
ID: followonsearch@mozilla.com

Naam: Form Autofill
Versie: 1.0
ID: formautofill@mozilla.org

Naam: Photon onboarding
Versie: 1.0
ID: onboarding@mozilla.org

Naam: Pocket
Versie: 1.0.5
ID: firefox@getpocket.com

Naam: Web Compat
Versie: 1.1
ID: webcompat@mozilla.org

Extensies
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Naam: DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials
Versie: 2018.5.1
Ingeschakeld: true
ID: jid1-ZAdIEUB7XOzOJw@jetpack

Naam: HTTPS Everywhere
Versie: 2018.4.11
Ingeschakeld: true
ID: https-everywhere-eff@eff.org

Naam: uBlock Origin
Versie: 1.16.6
Ingeschakeld: true
ID: uBlock0@raymondhill.net

Naam: Video DownloadHelper
Versie: 7.2.2
Ingeschakeld: true
ID: {b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}

Naam: VTZilla
Versie: 2.0.1
Ingeschakeld: true
ID: info@virustotal.com

Naam: Session Manager
Versie: 0.8.1.13
Ingeschakeld: false
ID: {1280606b-2510-4fe0-97ef-9b5a22eafe30}

Beveiligingssoftware
--------------------

Type: Malwarebytes

Type: Malwarebytes

Type: Windows Firewall
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Post Posted May 20th, 2018, 5:49 am

Tried it again, now it did work. Here's the crash ID:

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/ ... b200180520
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Post Posted May 20th, 2018, 10:32 am

Naam: Session Manager
Versie: 0.8.1.13
Ingeschakeld: false
ID: {1280606b-2510-4fe0-97ef-9b5a22eafe30}


create a new profile as you were recommended.

your graphics driver is from 2015 - update recommended (intel)

wth?
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unchecky_bg.exe|1.2.0.0

really? https://file.info/windows/unchecky_bg_exe.html
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/ac ... fox-and-we

uninstall unchecky, install new driver, create a fresh profile, ublock ok, forget the rest when it run stable.

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Post Posted May 21st, 2018, 5:52 am

unchecky_bg.exe

Seems to be a legitimate program.
Though why it is sticking itself into "Firefox", that is a different matter.
And in that respect, removing it & testing is worth doing.
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Post Posted Yesterday, 10:25 am

Yes, Unchecky is legit. I will re-install it because of the wrong location.

Thank you, therube, for pointing that out. I didn't get it at first.
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