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Post Posted January 11th, 2018, 2:49 pm

Just upgraded to 57 from 56. Big Big Mistake. My theme is gone. My windows are gone. I hate tabs. How can I go back to 56?
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Post Posted January 11th, 2018, 2:50 pm

You don't want to go back to 56 due to known security issues with that older version.
See this article -- https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1185315

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Post Posted January 11th, 2018, 2:55 pm

But I do want to go back. I hate this 57 with a passion. Why fix what isn’t broke. I hate tabs.
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Post Posted January 11th, 2018, 3:01 pm

Going to the ESR version is going back. It still permits the use of legacy extensions, etc, and it will continue to get security updates for a while.

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Post Posted January 11th, 2018, 3:07 pm

Then, tell me how I can get rid of the tabs and have windows only. What happened to the NOIA theme? This simple tools for clearing cache seems to be gone. That has always been a simple little window making it easy to use. That option seems to be totally gone. Been using FF for so many years I can’t remember, but this is absolutely the worst I’ve ever seen. Why does the appearance have to change so much that it no longer seems useful. Very user unfriendly if you ask me.
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Post Posted January 11th, 2018, 3:17 pm

I don't think you're actually reading my replies. If you install the ESR version (52.x) you will be able to use the old extensions that provided for the blocking of tabs, use of the Noia theme, etc, etc. etc. And clearing the cache, although that last option is still available in version 57 as well.

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Post Posted January 11th, 2018, 3:24 pm

That isn’t what I want to do. I want to go back to 56. I found the clear cache and something that disturbs me greatly. Site Data. I found stuff in there that should Never ever be there. Stuff I deleted with 56. I cleared that, but it disturbs me that stuff showed up at all.

Why can’t I have windows only in 57?
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Post Posted January 11th, 2018, 4:04 pm

Why can’t I have windows only in 57?

Because as far as I can recall that functionality was added by an extension that is not compatible with version 57.

Why don't you want to install the ESR version?

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Post Posted January 11th, 2018, 6:01 pm

wingspar wrote:Just upgraded to 57 from 56. Big Big Mistake. My theme is gone. My windows are gone. I hate tabs. How can I go back to 56?


http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/56.0.2/
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Post Posted January 11th, 2018, 8:01 pm

wingspar wrote:I hate tabs.

I was afraid I was the only one in the world that felt that way. I'm happy to find a fellow sufferer. I don't understand the love affair with tabs.

There used to be extensions that would at least allow "Open link in new window" to be ordered above "Open link in new tab" but such an option it too horrible to allow now I guess.
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Post Posted January 11th, 2018, 8:08 pm

Just make sure your running a really good anti-virus with that out of date and vulnerable version of Firefox.

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Post Posted January 11th, 2018, 10:35 pm

L.A.R. Grizzly wrote:
wingspar wrote:Just upgraded to 57 from 56. Big Big Mistake. My theme is gone. My windows are gone. I hate tabs. How can I go back to 56?


http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/56.0.2/


Thank you very much for that link. It took a couple of minutes to figure all that out, but I downloaded 56.0.2. I don’t have time to mess with it now and I’ll do a backup before I install it, but what will happen to all my settings and bookmarks when I install it? Will it keep all those settings like it would when upgrading?
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Post Posted January 11th, 2018, 11:15 pm

DanRaisch wrote:
Why can’t I have windows only in 57?

Because as far as I can recall that functionality was added by an extension that is not compatible with version 57.

Why don't you want to install the ESR version?


Yes, windows was an extension that has worked perfect for years. I think it was added as an extension from all the requests to bring windows back. Why take that functionality away?

Long story short. I have a netbook with XP on it. I rarely use it, but I used to upgrade FF on the netbook to have a good look at it before I upgraded on my main computer running Win 7. All of a sudden, that wasn’t working anymore and asking questions about it, I discovered that I had been changed to ESR (I still don’t understand what that is and why it exists) on the netbook and I could no longer use it to upgrade FF to have a look at it before upgrading my main computer. Had I been able to upgrade to 57 on the netbook and saw what a fiasco 57 is, I never would have upgraded to 57 on my main computer.

Look at the screen shot below. Just look at all that wasted space. Space that was occupied by the site I was looking at in 56. I know a lot of people like tabs. My other half does, but I have never understood why anyone would want tabs and I don’t want tabs. I hate them.

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Post Posted January 11th, 2018, 11:21 pm

pokeefe0001 wrote:
wingspar wrote:I hate tabs.

I was afraid I was the only one in the world that felt that way. I'm happy to find a fellow sufferer. I don't understand the love affair with tabs.

There used to be extensions that would at least allow "Open link in new window" to be ordered above "Open link in new tab" but such an option it too horrible to allow now I guess.


FF removed the windows feature a long time ago. I forget what version. There was enough of an uproar from users that FF developed an extension that allowed users to continue using windows. Now, they have again taken the windows feature away. I don’t understand why they have to mess with the interface every time they do a so called “upgrade”. Maybe if enough people complain about no windows, they will create an extension that will allow us the option. Maybe a separate thread about that would get their attention.
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Post Posted January 11th, 2018, 11:22 pm

DanRaisch wrote:Just make sure your running a really good anti-virus with that out of date and vulnerable version of Firefox.


56 was last updated in October. To me, that is NOT old and outdated. Yes, I run a very strong firewall and antivirus.
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