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Post Posted January 20th, 2018, 4:20 pm

https://www.cnet.com/news/layoffs-mozil ... k-in-asia/

Now, it's making changes so it can "better meet the unique needs of consumers in emerging markets across Asia," Mozilla said in a statement Thursday.

It would appear that Mozilla are now going into the spring roll market.
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Post Posted January 20th, 2018, 5:04 pm

But it still trails Google's Chrome browser by a wide margin -- 55 percent of web usage for Chrome compared to 6 percent for Firefox, according to StatCounter's measurements -- and Firefox is a rare sight in the crucial mobile market.


interesting read that, thanks for posting Frank

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Post Posted January 20th, 2018, 6:09 pm

Statcounter readjusted their numbers for all markets. That's Firefox's total across all platforms worldwide. Desktop is hovering around 13%.
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Post Posted January 21st, 2018, 8:48 pm

Didn't we add a ton of users lately with Quantum? I thought I read an article, that mentioned that.

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Post Posted January 21st, 2018, 8:55 pm

tomatoshadow2 wrote:Didn't we add a ton of users lately with Quantum? I thought I read an article, that mentioned that.

More people did i think Download the New Firefox but soon went back to Chrome or Vivaldi after seeing that Extensions arent much better than Chromes if at all

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Post Posted January 21st, 2018, 9:07 pm

Ahh I see, I didn't hear that people left just like that.

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Post Posted January 22nd, 2018, 4:55 am

Yes, it's quite likely a bunch of people will have tried the new Firefox and then gone back to their default. I did the same with Vivaldi and Opera (Chromium) but continued with Firefox as default. It's still my default, although I'm now using Opera more. I'm probably 50-50 in usage between the two now. I find that no one browser is better than all others in every respect, so have a bunch installed and may switch occasionally for certain tasks.

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Post Posted January 22nd, 2018, 8:15 am

tomatoshadow2 wrote:Didn't we add a ton of users lately with Quantum? I thought I read an article, that mentioned that.

With Mozilla spending the whole of October and half of November making sure that the entire tech press were on message with their 'Twice As Fast!' stuff, it would have been a miracle if downloads hadn't dramatically increased. Just because people would want to see what all the fuss was about. That's called curiosity and doesn't mean people are going to use it or switch over, especially when they find it's not as fast as claimed.

It's the same old Mozilla trick that they have been using for over 10 years now - to make something look good, then quote the Download figures (they have a few different ways of calculating that, including guessing). To make something look bad then quote the ADU (Average Daily User) figures and they have around 4 ways to calculate that.

For example, 20 - 30% only use Firefox at work and not at the weekends, so you can make legacy extensions/themes look bad just by taking 7 days (including weekends) and averaging that and calling that the ADU. ....and there's you thinking it meant average across a day.

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From the OP link -

Mozilla's revenue soared to $520 million in 2016, the last year for which financial information is available, but the organization doesn't have infinite resources....

Well, it does sort of have around 2 years worth - $329,774,000 (as of Dec. 31st 2016) - of infinite resources.

For the last 10 years, Mozilla's incomings have far exceeded their outgoings. The difference gets invested as stocks, bonds, copper futures, etc. Just a glance at its audited accounts tells you that.

It also tells you that very little ever gets donated out again from that investment portfolio.

Just a little something to remember the next time you see one of Mozilla's donation pleas. ;)
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Post Posted January 22nd, 2018, 9:15 am

Yeah makes sense forsure @Frank Lion, enjoy your insight as always when I come here daily. By the way, might be off topic guys, what are your opinions on the Mr.Robot extension mishap, what happened?

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Post Posted January 22nd, 2018, 10:29 am

tomatoshadow2 wrote:Yeah makes sense forsure @Frank Lion, enjoy your insight as always when I come here daily. By the way, might be off topic guys, what are your opinions on the Mr.Robot extension mishap, what happened?


The same thing that always happens, PR people bypassed the development process and got chastised for it.
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Post Posted January 25th, 2018, 2:28 pm

Omega X wrote:Statcounter readjusted their numbers for all markets. That's Firefox's total across all platforms worldwide. Desktop is hovering around 13%.

Actually it seems to the FF on desktop is in a constant albeit slow decline

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Post Posted January 25th, 2018, 2:54 pm

avada wrote:
Omega X wrote:Statcounter readjusted their numbers for all markets. That's Firefox's total across all platforms worldwide. Desktop is hovering around 13%.

Actually it seems to the FF on desktop is in a constant albeit slow decline

Sad, i feel that Firefox will go the same way that Netscape did.

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Post Posted January 27th, 2018, 7:42 am

There's always another browser -- like Brave, Vivaldi, Opera...

For now there's the Rust refactoring so Firefox isn't yet on its last legs. Unless something political comes up and all the actually-working developers get purged or quit en masse in disgust and flock elsewhere. Like Brave.

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Post Posted January 27th, 2018, 8:51 am

Interesting article..

https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/ar ... 529160.php

Mozilla declined to comment on the specific terms of its agreement with Google.
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Post Posted January 28th, 2018, 10:19 pm

1shaun wrote:There's always another browser -- like Brave, Vivaldi, Opera...

For now there's the Rust refactoring so Firefox isn't yet on its last legs. Unless something political comes up and all the actually-working developers get purged or quit en masse in disgust and flock elsewhere. Like Brave.


All of those are the same browser, reskinned.

Rust components are ongoing but the end game is the Servo Engine.

mightyglydd wrote:Interesting article..

https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/ar ... 529160.php

Mozilla declined to comment on the specific terms of its agreement with Google.


That's traditional.
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