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Post Posted October 20th, 2016, 9:57 pm

Are you guys installing these updates?

October, 2016 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 3.5.1 on Windows 7 SP1 (KB3188740)
October, 2016 Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 (KB3185330)
October, 2016 Preview of Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 (KB3192403)

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3188740
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3185330
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3192403

How to prepare for patchocalypse
http://www.infoworld.com/article/312898 ... lypse.html

Woody wrote:Group A are willing to take all of Microsoft’s new telemetry systems, along with potentially useful nonsecurity updates.

Woody wrote:Group B doesn’t want any more snooping than absolutely necessary, and they don’t care about improvements like daylight saving time zone changes, but want to keep applying security patches.

I read this article and I guess I'm in Group B, but I don't understand...

Woody says I need to download the update from the Windows Update Catalog. What is the difference between using Windows Update to install the rollup and installing the update from the Windows Update Catalog? Isn't it the same thing? I read that individual patches will no longer be available.

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Post Posted October 20th, 2016, 10:08 pm

I installed KB3188740 ..seems harmless.
Hid KB3185330 and KB3192403 (preview what!!?)
Successfully installed KB 3192391 from here.. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3192391 which is the 'security only' version of "Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 (KB3185330)" without the additional god knows what. Guess that puts me in group B....this month.
MS are real bastards deliberately not offering 'home users' the choice to install the Security Only version via updates.. At work on my PC I see Enterprise users are offered the choice to install either.. ](*,)
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Post Posted October 21st, 2016, 3:30 am

Yep.
I let it install the 1st two, .Net & Security Quality things & KB3192403 even though it was offered later as an "Optional."
I did hide a stack of other "optionals" though.

I'm definitely in Group B.
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Post Posted October 21st, 2016, 6:19 am

@mightyglydd

Thanks, I didn't know about KB3192391.

I think there is nothing bad in the non-security part of KB3185330.

To learn more about the non-security improvements and fixes in this update, see the September 20, 2016 — 3185278 section in Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 update history.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3185330
http://support.microsoft.com/help/22801

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Post Posted October 21st, 2016, 7:57 am

morat wrote:I think there is nothing bad in the non-security part of KB3185330.

Hmm....I reckon after the MS 'click on x means install 10' incident, non security "new quality improvements" could mean anything.
As for the '120.5 MB October, 2016 Preview !! of Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3192403)'
Updates need an installed Update Preview ?.....surely this is some kind of bad joke.
No doubt November will bring new developments
@A couple of threads gone bonkers on the subject here :)
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/win ... 141?page=2
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... a6f7793c7a
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Post Posted October 26th, 2016, 12:18 am

I'm interested in this question in case anyone knows the answer.

morat wrote:What does it mean to uninstall a cumulative monthly rollup? The monthly rollup for October will include all updates for October. The monthly rollup for November will include all updates for October and November.

As an example, let’s say there are two brothers.

Wilbur installs the monthly rollup for October and the monthly rollup for November, then Wilbur uninstalls the monthly rollup for November. Is Wilbur still protected with the fixes released in October?

Orville installs the monthly rollup for November, but not for October, then Orville uninstalls the monthly rollup for November. Is Orville still protected with the fixes released in October?

Woody wrote:I haven’t heard anything official about it.

Description of the standard terminology that is used to describe Microsoft software updates
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/824684

Further simplifying servicing models for Windows 7
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/win ... ndows-8-1/

More on Windows 7 servicing changes
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/win ... g-changes/

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Post Posted October 27th, 2016, 3:38 pm

Hello botnet my old "friend"... [-X
You won't get into my PC, again... =;
I'm also not installing these botnet (aka diagnostics, telemetry and data gathering) modified patches (KB3192403) [-(
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Post Posted November 21st, 2016, 1:35 pm

Beware of KB3197869, as it's new KB3192403.
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Post Posted November 21st, 2016, 3:42 pm

Before patchocalypse, I used Windows Update to check for missing security updates. Now I use Belarc Advisor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarc
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html

Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer (MBSA) says I need the latest monthly rollup, even though I have all the security only updates installed on my system. That's not helpful for Group B users.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_ ... y_Analyzer
http://www.microsoft.com/mbsa

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