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Post Posted September 17th, 2021, 11:41 pm

I ran across a comment in a bug report about "a new soft-fork of Thunderbird called Betterbird" that fixed the person's problems. Anybody use it? Its lead by Jörg Knobloch, a former maintainer of Thunderbird.

"Multi-line view
Many people have asked us to finally implement a multi-line view, so we're happy to announce that we are shipping this in version 91.1.1-bb14. To enable it, use the global option "View > Layout > Multi-line View On All Folders" or deselect the subject column in the column picker of the message list/thread pane for a particular folder. Let us know what you think."

https://www.betterbird.eu
https://github.com/Betterbird has the changes made to the ESR build of Thunderbird
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.c ... 690395#c33

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Post Posted September 27th, 2021, 10:06 am

I have downloaded it at have run it (ran it?). Looks good, though dies throw a red flag on install, but that was fine. Put one of my email addressed on it. Then realized this was going to take a while and have not had the time yet to go back and play with it. Especially as it will not recognize Thunderbird as another email client in order to import data over. I will work on it more as i have time as i am frustrated by the cliches in Thunderbird since the move to 91

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Post Posted October 26th, 2021, 7:58 pm

Some but not all of the fixes implemented by BetterBird have been included in Thunderbird according to the engineering manager. For example, Thunderbird didn't use its fix for "such as when opening attachments, "Do this automatically for files like this from now on" not working". They also rejected the multiline view enhancement, stating they plan on implementing a better solution later on.

I'm not aware of Thunderbird giving credit to any fixes submitted by BetterBird upstream. It might be in some bug reports but they don't seem to give credit in release notes etc.

There is a sub-forum devoted to BetterBird at https://www.thunderbird-mail.de/forum/b ... etterbird/ . Its in German so most people need to use google translate to read it.

https://www.betterbird.eu/#featuretable compares Thunderbird and BetterBird.

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Post Posted October 29th, 2021, 9:40 pm

It is not standard practice to give credit to third parties in release notes, nor anyone for that matter, for patch authorship. Never has been as far as I know. Perhaps you are thinking of security vulnerabilities where credit is given to those who discover (report) the security vulnerability. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/ ... sa2020-33/ has examples.

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Post Posted October 30th, 2021, 6:31 am

I'm aware its not standard practice, but its a unusual situation, so I thought it was worth mentioning. It wasn't meant as criticism. AFAIK there hasn't been any other project which has had as one of its main goals to provide bug fixes and enhancements to Thunderbird and submit them upstream.

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Post Posted November 1st, 2021, 5:15 am

No worries - I didn't take it as a criticism.

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