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Post Posted April 28th, 2019, 3:25 pm

i see Mozilla are gonna stop using IRC for there communications. https://www.ghacks.net/2019/04/28/mozil ... -platform/

Peja Stija wrote:With today's nightly, opening the site http://cyfostreams.com/ instantly crashes the browser.

i cant reproduce that crash

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Post Posted April 28th, 2019, 4:21 pm

looks like the patches (7) were backed out that was causing the crashes... The next Nightly should be less crashy hopefully.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1535697 Use separate connections for isolated third-party trackers

BTW, I've not had any here...

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Post Posted April 28th, 2019, 8:04 pm

just got a Complete Update 49.7MB

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Post Posted April 29th, 2019, 2:02 am

No more crashes here, backout of offending patch fixed it. =D>



Mouse4 wrote:i see Mozilla are gonna stop using IRC for there communications. https://www.ghacks.net/2019/04/28/mozil ... -platform/
[...]

That's really sad and bad move in my opinion, as I have high fondness for IRC ( https://xkcd.com/1782/ ),
but maybe it's finally time to use new much better alternatives, if they're available of course.

What's more, "abuse and harassment" won't simply magically disappear, because you only changed platform of communication.
It's moderation thing, and for me, it would be kinda embarrassing and pathetic to say, that I can't even protect my own IRC server and its channels from "abuse and harassment".

I only hope that Mozilla won't be moving its own self-hosted open source instant chat platform like IRC
to centralized proprietary closed source chat platform like Discord, which isn't privacy friendly in any way and it's against Mozilla manifesto, principles and mission
or use some kind of forum as replacement to instant chat messaging.

About replacements, I hoping for:
- Matrix protocol
- Tox protocol
- Jami
or at least for Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol.

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Post Posted April 29th, 2019, 2:12 am

Virtual_ManPL wrote:No more crashes here, backout of offending patch fixed it. =D>



Mouse4 wrote:i see Mozilla are gonna stop using IRC for there communications. https://www.ghacks.net/2019/04/28/mozil ... -platform/
[...]

That's really sad and bad move in my opinion, as I have high fondness for IRC ( https://xkcd.com/1782/ ),
but maybe it's finally time to use new much better alternatives, if they're available of course.

What's more, "abuse and harassment" won't simply magically disappear, because you only changed platform of communication.
It's moderation thing, and for me, it would be kinda embarrassing and pathetic to say, that I can't even protect my own IRC server and its channels from "abuse and harassment".

I only hope that Mozilla won't be moving its own self-hosted open source instant chat platform like IRC
to centralized proprietary closed source chat platform like Discord, which isn't privacy friendly in any way and it's against Mozilla manifesto, principles and mission
or use some kind of forum as replacement to instant chat messaging.

About replacements, I hoping for:
- Matrix protocol
- Tox protocol
- Jami
or at least for Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol.

i think an can see but IRC is Dying, it used to be pretty huge, it aint now, i think a lot more opensource projects wilol use something else , i dont think Forums are a good idea as they can be spammed a lot. just look at this forum. gets heaps of spam on it . i think ma lot will go to that askubuntu type forum or Discord.

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Post Posted April 29th, 2019, 2:21 am

Mouse4 wrote:[...]askubuntu type forum
But Mozilla want replacement for IRC, not forum,
and forum isn't replacement for instant chat messaging.

What's more Mozilla already has its own self-hosted forum based on Discourse here - https://discourse.mozilla.org/

Not to add that, "Ask Ubuntu" is probably worst kind of forum I've ever seen. Good luck with finding something there.


Mouse4 wrote:or Discord.
Let's hope not,
as I said before:
Virtual_ManPL wrote:centralized proprietary closed source chat platform like Discord, which isn't privacy friendly in any way and it's against Mozilla manifesto, principles and mission

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Post Posted April 29th, 2019, 11:37 am

What the hell happened to the Mercurial pushlog. Patch IDs are 3 times as long now.
http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml
Latest: Firefox/68.0 *ESR/68.0 - Mobile/68.0 - Thunderbird/60.8
Nightly: Nightly/70.0a1 - Mobile/70.0a1 - Daily/70.0a1

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Post Posted April 29th, 2019, 12:07 pm

Omega X wrote:What the hell happened to the Mercurial pushlog. Patch IDs are 3 times as long now.
http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml


No idea, I wish they would quit messing with the tree format and the pushlog. This change makes it hard to read I think. #-o

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Post Posted April 29th, 2019, 12:17 pm

Omega X wrote:What the hell happened to the Mercurial pushlog. Patch IDs are 3 times as long now.
http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml

Apparently they were getting too many collisions with the old 12-character hash shorthands and it was putting a lot of strain on the system, so they switched to the full 40-character hashes.

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Post Posted April 29th, 2019, 1:20 pm

When I check for updates, I get the throbber, but it doesn't spin, nor does anything download. I manually updated to buildID 20190429095544 but the same thing is happening. Even in safe mode.
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Post Posted April 29th, 2019, 5:34 pm

2nd Nightly is out and the bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1535697 that was causing the crashes for past couple days has been checked-in again.

I did not experience any crashes myself either before or after the backout.

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Post Posted April 29th, 2019, 5:41 pm

smsmith wrote:When I check for updates, I get the throbber, but it doesn't spin, nor does anything download. I manually updated to buildID 20190429095544 but the same thing is happening. Even in safe mode.

Since you posted this I have twice successfully checked for updates, downloaded a new version, and restarted.

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Post Posted April 29th, 2019, 10:00 pm

Seeing a different crash, go to imgur.com click any image and then back. Going back crashes the tab (mozilla::dom::BrowsingContext::RestoreChildren)

https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/ ... 80d0190430

Anyone else seeing it?

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Post Posted April 29th, 2019, 10:21 pm

Elen wrote:Seeing a different crash, go to imgur.com click any image and then back. Going back crashes the tab (mozilla::dom::BrowsingContext::RestoreChildren)

https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/ ... 80d0190430

Anyone else seeing it?

confirmed, i get a Tab Crash.

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Post Posted April 29th, 2019, 10:45 pm


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