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Post Posted May 9th, 2003, 2:56 am

I DO NOT like "Flash", as most of them are just ads/commercials. I removed Macromedia's "Flash" from my IE and never installed this plug-ins for both my Mozilla and FB/Phoenix.

It's very interesting that IE (even without the "Flash" will download the "Flash" part first before displaying the rest, whereas Mozilla/FB/Phoenix seem to know that I don't have the plug-ins and would straight away display the web content! Mozilla/Phoenix/FB are just super fast, period! (considering my pc is an old PII 233, 96MB Ram with Win98SE!) Keep up the good work!
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Post Posted May 9th, 2003, 6:42 am

Just goes to show that the old saying still stands true... birds are faster than monopolies..

Or wait, did I just make that up?
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Post Posted May 9th, 2003, 7:15 am

SushiFugu wrote:Just goes to show that the old saying still stands true... birds are faster than monopolies..

is that kind of like the pen is mightier than the sword?
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Post Posted May 9th, 2003, 7:35 am

tolremeno wrote:
SushiFugu wrote:Just goes to show that the old saying still stands true... birds are faster than monopolies..

is that kind of like the pen is mightier than the sword?


Something like that :)
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Post Posted May 9th, 2003, 8:44 am

I hate the flash ads too, but I still have the plugin installed in case I want to see flash sites. I use the Proxomitron to filter out all the ads, popups, banners and flash stuff. You can get a free copy at http://www.proxomitron.org .
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Post Posted May 9th, 2003, 8:50 am

sammo, you sound like a commercial ... but i'll have to check it out. sounds useful. so many websites these days (especially for music groups) are flash.
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Post Posted May 9th, 2003, 9:56 am

Flash has come a long way past simple ads and evil intro sites. Perhaps it is time to look and see what is being done out there with it overall, especially as it pertains to Flash 6.

Many data driven applications are being written using Flash MX that I think are more than just bandwidth eating flashy crap.

Blocking meaningless content is one thing, but can be a bit of the "cutting off your nose to spite your face" kind of thing there.
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Post Posted May 9th, 2003, 9:58 am

tolremeno wrote:
SushiFugu wrote:Just goes to show that the old saying still stands true... birds are faster than monopolies..

is that kind of like the pen is mightier than the sword?


Its true, a pen in the eye really hurts!
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Post Posted May 9th, 2003, 10:00 am

If you want to get rid of banners, Flash, etc you may want to read this:

http://www.mozillazine.org/forums/viewt ... afee47712d

so Mozilla/FB can do this by itself. ;)
To kill Flash on demand the "Prefbar" is very usefull:

http://www.xulplanet.com/downloads/prefbar/

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Post Posted May 9th, 2003, 10:04 am

That's why I like to Proxomitron. You can still see any flash that you want while blocking out what you don't. Sites can be bypassed by Proxo to see flash or individual flash items can selected by the link Proxo puts on the filtered page.
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Post Posted May 9th, 2003, 10:20 am

Sammo wrote:I hate the flash ads too, but I still have the plugin installed in case I want to see flash sites. I use the Proxomitron to filter out all the ads, popups, banners and flash stuff. You can get a free copy at http://www.proxomitron.org .


Thanks for the "http://www.proxomitron.org", will try that out. For now I simply try to add index.htm or home.htm in order to by pass the "Flash" part and if that don't work I simply DO NOT visit these "forced Flash" sites (I can get the same info from millions of other web sites, so there is no need to put up with "Flash"). To be fair I must also say that there are many good web developers who will either let you choose to view their web pages with or without "Flash" or they have the "auto detect" feature which would direct you to bypass the "Flash" part.
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Post Posted May 9th, 2003, 1:43 pm

JKey wrote:Flash has come a long way past simple ads and evil intro sites. Perhaps it is time to look and see what is being done out there with it overall, especially as it pertains to Flash 6.

<a href="http://www.homestarrunner.com/">Prime example</a>. Flash is very efficient and appropriate for this type of site. Plus it's just the greatest thing ever. :D

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Post Posted May 9th, 2003, 2:23 pm

I completely concur!
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Post Posted May 10th, 2003, 6:40 am

JKey wrote:Many data driven applications are being written using Flash MX that I think are more than just bandwidth eating flashy crap.

If there are so many of them, how come the only stuff I ever see is bandwidth eating flashy crap?

Homestar Runner doesn't count, it's a cartoon, not a "data-driven application".
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Post Posted May 10th, 2003, 6:15 pm

I haven't used proxomitron, but it seems like I can replicate the most important features by using userContent.css . I'm currently using it to block most ads (and it's doing a damn good job too, as I've only seen about two or three ads after using it for a few days), but it's simple to block all flash with it as well. I choose not to, since I frequent a few sites like homestarrunner.com.

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