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wateringcan

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Post Posted December 20th, 2002, 12:04 pm

I'm new here, so be gentle people! :)

Having IE 5.5 and Netscape 4.7 installed, do I really need to download Java for Mozilla? Can't I just direct Mozilla to the existing java folders of IE and Netscape?

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Post Posted December 20th, 2002, 3:43 pm

Nope, you can't.
You have to download Sun's JRE (<a href="http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/download.html">1.3.x</a> or <a href="http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/download.html">1.4.x</a>, preferably the latter) in order to run Java applets

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Post Posted December 20th, 2002, 4:16 pm

Ok, thanks.

Does the java icon need to appear in the system tray though, since it doesn't for Netscape or IE?

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Post Posted December 20th, 2002, 10:01 pm

wateringcan wrote:Does the java icon need to appear in the system tray though, since it doesn't for Netscape or IE?


Open the Java Plug-in Control Panel (from Control Panel) and choose any option other than 'Show console'.
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Post Posted December 21st, 2002, 7:56 am

Gilles wrote:Nope, you can't.
You have to download Sun's JRE (<a href="http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/download.html">1.3.x</a> or <a href="http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/download.html">1.4.x</a>, preferably the latter) in order to run Java applets


OK...I have Mozilla 1.2.1, and I don't have the JAVA plugin installed. Only extra plugin I have (above and beyond what comes with the standard Windows Installer build) was the Macromedia plugin that gave me Flash and FutureSplash.

I navigated to that page, but not sure from the list of links WHICH plugin I need to get. I guess it's just the one that says

<I>Download J2SETM v 1.4.1_01 JRE
* Windows (U.S. English only)</I>

Is that the right one? And is it really essential I get the JAVA plugin? I don't think I've been to a site that needs it yet, because Mozilla has never prompted me for the plugin. I'd be interested in seeing a link to a site that DOES prompt me for it, though. Just for comparison to see if it sends me to the same place as the method mentioned above.

Thanks to anyone who can help.

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Post Posted December 21st, 2002, 11:12 am

You need the java plugin if you want to be able to view java applets on sites that have them. not that many do anymore, but there are still some.

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Post Posted December 21st, 2002, 11:17 am

I surf around a lot of goofy places (I like to see people's personal webpages, blogs, and stuff like that), and I'm always paranoid about them having some malicious JAVA applet on there. So unless I see a site I go to that I absolutely <I>need</I> JAVA to access, I guess I'll just not bother with it.

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Post Posted December 25th, 2002, 10:52 pm

I have a follow-up question to my top message:

When I installed Mozilla, I got the question whether I wanted the same user settings as the previously installed NS 4.7. If I had picked yes, would Mozilla had used the same plugins as NS including java, without having to download it especially for Mozilla?

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Post Posted December 27th, 2002, 2:03 am

The JVMs (Java Virual Machines) included with Netscape 4.x and IE are very old (outdated). Mozilla uses the newer and powerful JRE 1.3.x or 1.4.x (as pointed above). You can't use the old ones.
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Post Posted December 27th, 2002, 5:20 am

I did not try it since I use Linux, but it seems you can use an existing Java installation
that is recent enough, by simply copying the plugin dll:
http://www.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla1.3a/#java

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Post Posted December 27th, 2002, 5:30 am

Yes, this solution works, but the original poster asked about the JVM already installed by Netscape 4.7 (Java 1.1.5) or IE 5.5 (Microsoft's JVM 1.2 i believe).
From i don't remember now what version of Mozilla (1.1 ?), you don't need anymore to copy the dlls, they are detected and used, but you must have installed Sun's JVM
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